Religion and Politics
The two things to avoid among family and friends.
by Michael Gordon
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Some definitions. Your mileage may vary; but these are how
I use these words:
Some premises which I assert as fact.
- Religion: a set of beliefs and, to a certain extent,
accompanying practices and behaviors. Essential element: one or
more unproveable or at least not widely accepted claims accepted on
faith. Usually invokes one or more Gods; but almost
anything will do in the place of "God" -- including an unproveable
assertion that there is no God (atheism), or the various arguments
about the relative merits of MacIntosh, Microsoft and Linux.
- Church: an instantiation of a religion into an
- Politics: When a group of people collectively assume
authority over others, the ensuing arguments and agreements
collectively comprise "Politics."
- State: an instantiation of politics, the boundaries of
which are usually geographical. The outcome of politics
is usually confined to a state.
- Separation of Church and State: Possible and perhaps
desireable. the politics of religion (ie, instantiation
as a church) and the religion of politics should be kept
- Separation of Religion and Politics: Impossible;
whether it is desireable is moot.
- Reality: That which exists in Newtonian, 3-dimensional
space; it might not be detectable electromagnetically (ie, you might
not be able to touch it, see it, feel it, etc).
- Truth: the "capital T" kind -- a knowledge of what was,
is, and is to be. It is vastly comprehensive, it does not
deceive and it cannot be deceived. By definition, human beings
cannot know "Truth" but we can approach it will vigilant attention to
the past and present.
- truth: "little t" -- a factoid. Probably true and
sometimes deceiving. An isolated fact that people use to
authenticate elaborate scenarios of doubtful veracity.
Some conclusions that must result from these facts.
- There is only one God. All other things that may
exist are not God, but may nevertheless be influential, including Linux.
- For the sake of debate, I use the word somewhat generically.
- For the record, I declare the existence of God; but the details
of what that means is saved for a different page.
- There must be a God. If not, the most supreme being
will automatically become God. (See Rosseau for more
thoughts on this).
- Among the things that are not God one is farthest removed
and thus called the Enemy of God. You cannot very well believe in
one without believing in the other; for they are the opposite ends of a
- Rights do not exist. What we call
rights is simply a social agreement not to bother you while you do
certain things. This agreement can change or be abrogated on a
moment's notice. Some of these agreements are very ancient and
called natural rights, others are inventions and called statutory
rights. Some are both (the Bill of Rights, namely the first
10 Amendments of the Constitution of the United States of America, are
for the most part codification of pre-existing natural rights).
- "Inalienable rights" exist only if God exists.
- <>Persons around you that do not believe in God are very likely
to alienate your inalienable rights.>
- <>>Includes such things as "life, liberty and the pursuit of
happiness." It is what animals do.
- God will not condemn you for exercising your inalienable
rights. Don't bet on anyone else supporting you in doing so.
- A society cannot exist without a God (see Rosseau).
This is because no human person automatically has authority over any
other human person.
- A society cannot exist for long unless a supermajority believes
in the same God. This is because only one God can
exist. All others are not God.
- A society cannot exist for long unless the laws of this God are
more or less consistent, just, unchanging, and widely published.
- "Eminent Domain" cannot exist without a God. (a
recent supreme court justice explained this one, I'll try to dig up
- It is quite possible for a human person to appoint himself as
"God" for a time but such things tend to be unstable. If you can
be God, then so can I or any other person and we revert to anarchy,
violence or politics to decide who is going to be God today.
- If evidence of "human" God is social and theological instability,
then stable theological ideas is evidence of a more immortal and
The perfect religion is one that conforms itself to reality
while offering a hope and the evidence of a better life. It will
compete successfully with other systems. "True Religion" and
"True Science" will not conflict or compete; each being primarily
focused on differing facets or faces of a single reality -- but even
that hides the complexity of what we mean by "reality". Both
venues have frauds of course, you can find plenty of bad religion and
- A society that believes in One God will supercede a society with
either none or many, other factors being more or less equivalent.
- A unified society is stronger than the same number of persons
acting individually. This is why a small number of Europeans
conquered a much larger number of non-unified North American peoples,
themselves more or less continually in conflict with each other.
- Two societies in conflict, each with one God but not the same
God, must eventually compete. The one that refuses to compete
will become extinct or enslaved at the pleasure of the other, which is
pretty close to the same thing (ie, the society will be extinct
even if its members have been assimilated into the more aggressive
- A pacifist, utopian or egalitarian society cannot exist among
parasites, thieves and bullies. Such a thing requires protection
from natural barriers and/or a protective force (armed forces) that is
none of these things.
- No two people are exactly equal. One will be more
equal. (see Orwell's Animal Farm).
- The introduction of more aggressive species into paradise
gradually destroys paradise.
- The introduction of a peaceful species into a more aggressive
biome will result in instant extinction of the less aggressive species.
- Therefore, Paradise cannot exist without a protector.
- Societies, and/or their protectors, must conflict sooner or later
- The United States of America cannot long sustain a diversity of
Gods and godlessness. Malthusian scarcity guarantees that
individuals must compete for those resources; they will aggregate or
associate along lines of similar culture, family and religion.
- Since the largest single block of culture and religion in the
United States is Christianity, all other aggregations (mini-societies)
will attack the foundation of the majority, namely,
- Christianity is at war; for now, a war of ideas.
Believers need to review carefully its tenets regarding
self-defense. See # Luke 22: 36 Then said he unto them,
But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip:
and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
Details to be argued on following pages when/if I get time to make
them. I've been debating for years (CompuServe and various USENET
- Some observations about God
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